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Question: Does Anyone Have An Herbal Substitute Or Remedy That Can Be Used Instead Of Plaquenil To Treat Lupus?
I have replaced many of the medications for lupus with herbal and/or over the counter substitutes, such as St. John's Wort and aspirin preparations, but I am at a loss in my research for something herbal that might eliminate the need for Plaquenil and its generic substitutes. This is the anti-malarial drug used to treat the photo-sensitivity and arthritis and fatigue of lupus. It isn't that Plaquenil does not work for me; it works very well. But even the now available generic prescription version costs me over $200 every three months. Anyone have an herbal substitute or remedy here?


Answer #1
I came across your site while trying to "find new business" -- yeah, I am one of the dreaded manufacturers of nutritional supplements that you may not want to hear from because we have our own agendas. Understandable, considering the multitude of dishonest supplement marketers. However, I am a "healer" (I don't usually call myself that) and scientist first, and believe me, if I thought any of our products were not good for anyone's health, I would not provide it. I have over twenty-five years in the pharmaceutical industry (before starting my own nutritional manufacturing company) and I am working on my Ph.D. in holistic nutrition. I believe in this industry although I know of the hype and rhetoric that accompanies the marketing strategies (I do not subscribe to it).

On to the question and answer: I may have an answer to your question (about an herbal "cure" for lupus): I checked out this question (hell, I did not even know exactly what lupus was) and found in my textbooks that burdock has been used for centuries to treat lupus.

In another book I found that lupus (discoid lupus erythematosus), an autoimmune disease of the skin, could be healed by (or at least benefited from) consuming large amounts of vitamin E. Lupus erythematosus has also been shown in people with high blood levels of copper, although it is not known whether the body is attempting to correct the situation by supplying higher levels of copper to the bloodstream to combat the disease or if it is a direct cause of it (more on this coming).

There is also some evidence that the stomach acidity is low in people suffering from lupus (also saw where "thin, peeling fingernails" is a sign of low stomach acidity. Low stomach acidity leads especially to poor protein digestion and decreased mineral absorption (known facts). It is likely that the individual is deficient in copper even though the blood has elevated levels (this is common for many nutrients and blood levels may actually present the wrong conclusion). Also some evidence that selenium and zinc can help cure lupus (although if you take a lot of zinc, definitely take additional copper as it decreases the absorptivity of copper, and we all need copper).

Lastly, but not least, some evidence shows that omega-3-fatty acids, as an anti-inflammatory, can fight lupus symptoms. Since a cure is what we are after, I would suggest trying both the burdock and supplements containing high doses of vitamin E, selenium, zinc and copper. Don't take too much zinc or copper, but vitamin E is very safe, especially if the water-soluble form is taken (such as the succinate). While we are on these nutrients, clinical studies have shown the following: vitamin E is very important to help reduce the risk of heart attacks by 50%, as long as at least 400 IU of vitamin E is consumed per day. And, selenium is another nutrient needed by everyone to help reduce the risk of cancer by 50%.

It is our philosophy at xxxxxxx that we only want to help people live longer and better through nutritional support. Making money will come by itself, but only if we can benefit our customer's health -- that is all we want to do (of course that may be why we make so little money, and do so little marketing).

Your web site is greatly needed! It should be a place where the consumer and the supplement provider can gain. After all, we are all after the same thing -- elevated health and longevity. It is better to get rid of the hype products and keep the good ones than to lose credibility with the few mistakes. Unfortunately sometimes it takes time to heal with nutrition and people lose patience (especially when they are used to the rapid, though side-effect-producing prescription products).

If you do not mind, I intend to spend more time on your site answering questions that you are not getting answers for. There is nothing worse than despair. Hope you do not mind some input from a manufacturer . . . . let me know if you prefer I not comment. Thanks for your site and the care you put into it for the consumer -- they need an unbiased source for information.

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Answer #2
Initially, I was diagnosed with RA and prescribed Ansaid, then Naprosyn. They helped for a little while, then my pain and joint swelling kept increasing. I was found to have a connective tissue disorder in a gray area between RA and lupus. My doctor prescribed Plaquenil, which took some time to help, but eventually I had more relief. Besides, the nsaids put holes in my stomach. Anyhow, I feel better, but am not pain free, especially with damp weather.

My Mom, who has fibromyalgia, keeps telling me to take MSM (Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane). Since she started using it, she is pretty much pain-free, less tired and more energetic (tiredness is one of my biggest problems). I believe in herbal remedies to some extent, but I really didn't think any health store product could have any great effect. I have seen such a change in my Mom since she's been using MSM and she said the crystals are much better than the capsules. I didn't jump into it because I also have asthma and was afraid to mix MSM with my medication. When I asked my rheumatory physician about MSM for my CTD, he said he doesn't recommend it in general just because it's not FDA approved; but, in my case he deterred me because I also use Pamerol for migraines, and he feels that there would be a definite counteraction. I can accept that for the time being, but if things get worse, I may again try to delete the Pamerol and maybe try the MSM.

Anyhow, I recommend the MSM on my Mom's word, and she wouldn't steer me wrong. I can definitely see the difference in her and her improved energy...I wish I had that. If you think it's right for you, I would try the MSM, but do check with a doctor if you are taking any medications.

Hope this helps,
Sheila

And if it does, please let me know...thanks.


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