6oxo/ SAN estrodex

[alfie_uk]

We all know and (some) love 6oxo and it had become an industry standard but with SAN making good products like T100, is this Estrodex as good if not better than 6oxo?

Estrodex

Calcium D-Glucarate 300 mg

Diindolemethane (DIM) 100 mg

3,5,4'TriHydroxy-Transstilbene (20% Resaveratrol, 10% Emodin) 50 mg

5a-Androstanedione (5A-Ad) 25 mg

Where 6OXO has

6-OXO (3;6;17-androstenetrione): 300 mg



Still being a rookie to the whole prohormone thing, I was just wondering if anyone out there had any information on this? I'm just used to cycles on and off of creatine and hydroxycut....

Nice one

[engineer88]

I don't know, and I hate to pimp certain companies like I work for them, but I have used a few different San products and liked them all. If I get time I will do some in-depth research on all of the ingredients and their ammounts to see how good it is.

I will post what I find.

[engineer88]

Ahh frick it. I just went ahead and did it now.

http://www.hormonalbalance.com/ about DIM

http://www.evitamins.com/healthnotes/he ... ID=2820001 about Calcium D-Glucarate

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmetha.htm

I am a little skeptical. The D-glucarate thing doesn't sound so great IMHO and the 5-AD is dione and not diol. Usually they make good decisions. I might try this as a post cycle for my next 1-Test cycle just to see if it works well but that is gonna be 2 months from now. So if anyone else tries it, let us know. Thanks! :D

[alfie_uk]

just checked your links geezer and picked up on this quote from the body building.com link

Well it seems 5AD is a potent estrogen agonist. That means it doesn't necessarily act as an estrogen and it certainly doesn't convert to an estrogen, but that it increases the effect of circulating estrogens from other compounds.

Does this kinda imply that after coming off T100 and having LOADS of estrogen knocking about my system, this thing will boost it's properties and any problems will only be increased??

Think I'll stick with the 6OXO....

Cheers for that one fella.

:D

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diet; check, sleep pattern; check, BRING ON THE T100!

[Italiangod65]

no no no no......

it is not 5-AD which would boost estro levels... IT IS 5-AA which is a dht-derivitive and doesnt convert to estrogen, it blocks estrogen in the same way that proviron does.

The other stuff in there i dont know about.. The only problem with this is that its hard on the prostate and the hair line, Wouldnt worry unless baldness runs in the family... Other than that it works great at blocking estrogen, and as an added benefit it hardens you up pretty well, and adds some strength

[alfie_uk]

Ahh..... told you I was a rookie, didn't think I'd be exposed that easily though..... So take this after the T100 (which is meant to be taken for 6 weeks) for a 6 weeks and everything will be back to normal, wait for a month and start the cycle all over again?

:D

What I was gonna ask is Engineer88 (cos I know you've tried it), I've been looking at T100 on the bodybuilding.com forum and theres an awful lot of people saying that Ergopharm 1-AD creates more strength and muscle whereas T100 just gives the user a puffed up/ bloated feeling... where were they going wrong do you think?

And would 1-AD be a good way to start off on pro-hormones/ pro-steroids to see how my body reacts to them?

Thanks everybody! :D

[4-androstene-3-one 17ß-o]

1-AD is a good beginner pro-hormone, and for post cycle stick to 6-OXO or go towards Nolva and Clomid.

[alfie_uk]

and use the 6OXO for 6 weeks? or is it just a month?...

:D

[4-androstene-3-one 17ß-o]

However long the bottle lasts, that will be enough

[alfie_uk]

Cheers Dr. Gooch, I'm posting my journal on the 1-AD board...

I'll go with the 6OXO, not only is it tried and tested, I don't have any research into clomid/nolva as yet and also 6OXO is nice and cheap on www.discount-supplements.co.uk

heh heh...

What I was gonna say, could I run 6OXO at the same time as 1-AD?

Surely that would nullify any possible estrogen side effects?

Cheers Gooch, Geezer88 and IGod!

Alfie

[engineer88]

I have done 1-Ad cycles and t-100. The 1-Ad did not give me as much strength gains imo. The thing I liked about T-100 is that I had less sides and felt less groggy, etc. Actually tbh I had the same gains taking just T-100 that I did taking 1 and 4. But I guess some things work a lil better for some people.

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